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Asdal, Hjørring, Danmark |
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Ide Lydersdatter Holck
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DAA 1892 s 109 Danske adelsgodser i middelalderen,Erik Ulsig,Kbh.1968 s 419
"Per Nermo" skrev i en meddelelse >...
> On 10 Dec 2003 16:33:36 -0800, aakren@aol.com (N Aakre) wrote:
>
> >While being stuck in the English language, I have been trying
> >(with difficulty) to follow the discussions (in Norwegian) of the
> >ancestors of Otte Thomassen Orning.
> >
> >Could someone please enlighten me (in English) on the
> >controversy or current thinking about Johanne Andersdtr (c1395-1479)
> >of Asdal? The one I refer to is the wife of Niels Eriksen Banner and
> >mother of Karen Nielsdtr Banner. I have found her listed with
> >surnames Til Asdal, Panter, and Paasce. Are genealogists
> >confused by several women with similar names or is there some
> >other explanation? Is there a current consensus on her ancestors,
> >or is this an area of disagreement among experts?
> >
> > / Erik Banner (1370-1419)
> > / Niels Eriksen Banner (1400-1447)
> > | \ Ingegerd Krabbe (1370-
> >Karen Nielsdtr Banner (1420-1507)
> > | / Anders Nielsen (Asdal? Panter? Paasce?)
> > \ Johanne Andersdtr of Asdal (1385?-1479)
> > \ Ide Lydersdtr Holck (1350-1425)
> >
> >Many Thanks.
>
> I think the main dispute does not concern the one (duchesse) "fru
> Johanne til Asdal" (died 1479) that you mention, but rather her
> father's mother (and "namesister"), Johanne Andersdatter ("Fru
> Johanne"), who was married to Niels Ovesen Sappi (Panter) (knight in
> 1355) til Asdal (born in Mors, Thisted, Danmark).
> Johanne and Niels' son was Anders Nielsen (Panter) Sappi.
> (The Asdal property was located in Skovgaard, Knivholt, Vendsyssel).
>
> The dispute, as I've understood it, concerns the father
> of Johanne; that is whether he was or was not the
> nobleman (duke) Anders Albertsen von Eberstein til Ørnehoved. Lately,
> the "most common" conclusion seems to be that this is not the case,
> and rather that she was the daughter of one Anders Aagesen
> Steenbrikke.
>
> I'll have to point out that I'm in no way an expert on this, and that
> above information is merely "hearsay" and not verified by me from any
> primary sources, and thus should be treated accordingly.
>
> best regards,
> Per Nermo
> Oslo, Norway
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Reventlow | Ancestor to Christian Ditlev Reventlow |
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.jpg "Reventlow, Ditlev 1666-1733")
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