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ca. 1400 - 1478 (78 år)
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Navn |
Johanne Andersdatter Panter |
Fødsel |
ca. 1400 |
Asdal, Hjørring, Danmark |
Køn |
Kvinde |
Død |
1478 |
Begravelse |
Dueholm Kloster, Nykøbing Mors, Danmark |
Notater |
Danske adelsgodser i middelalderen,Erik Ulsig,Kbh.1968 s 274
"Per Nermo" skrev i en meddelelse >...
> On 10 Dec 2003 16:33:36 -0800, aakren@aol.com (N Aakre) wrote:
>
> >While being stuck in the English language, I have been trying
> >(with difficulty) to follow the discussions (in Norwegian) of the
> >ancestors of Otte Thomassen Orning.
> >
> >Could someone please enlighten me (in English) on the
> >controversy or current thinking about Johanne Andersdtr (c1395-1479)
> >of Asdal? The one I refer to is the wife of Niels Eriksen Banner and
> >mother of Karen Nielsdtr Banner. I have found her listed with
> >surnames Til Asdal, Panter, and Paasce. Are genealogists
> >confused by several women with similar names or is there some
> >other explanation? Is there a current consensus on her ancestors,
> >or is this an area of disagreement among experts?
> >
> > / Erik Banner (1370-1419)
> > / Niels Eriksen Banner (1400-1447)
> > | \ Ingegerd Krabbe (1370-
> >Karen Nielsdtr Banner (1420-1507)
> > | / Anders Nielsen (Asdal? Panter? Paasce?)
> > \ Johanne Andersdtr of Asdal (1385?-1479)
> > \ Ide Lydersdtr Holck (1350-1425)
> >
> >Many Thanks.
>
> I think the main dispute does not concern the one (duchesse) "fru
> Johanne til Asdal" (died 1479) that you mention, but rather her
> father's mother (and "namesister"), Johanne Andersdatter ("Fru
> Johanne"), who was married to Niels Ovesen Sappi (Panter) (knight in
> 1355) til Asdal (born in Mors, Thisted, Danmark).
> Johanne and Niels' son was Anders Nielsen (Panter) Sappi.
> (The Asdal property was located in Skovgaard, Knivholt, Vendsyssel).
>
> The dispute, as I've understood it, concerns the father
> of Johanne; that is whether he was or was not the
> nobleman (duke) Anders Albertsen von Eberstein til Ørnehoved. Lately,
> the "most common" conclusion seems to be that this is not the case,
> and rather that she was the daughter of one Anders Aagesen
> Steenbrikke.
>
> I'll have to point out that I'm in no way an expert on this, and that
> above information is merely "hearsay" and not verified by me from any
> primary sources, and thus should be treated accordingly.
>
> best regards,
> Per Nermo
> Oslo, Norway
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Person-ID |
I2094 |
Reventlow | Ancestor to Christian Ditlev Reventlow |
Sidst ændret |
25 jan. 2015 |
Far |
Anders Nielsen Panter, f. ca. 1350, Ryhave Vendsyssel, , d. før 20 jun. 1406, Asdal, Hjørring, Danmark (Alder < 56 år) |
Mor |
Ide Lydersdatter Holck, f. ca. 1370 d. eft. 1426, Asdal, Hjørring, Danmark (Alder > 57 år) |
Ægteskab |
før 1402 |
Familie-ID |
F33510 |
Gruppeskema | Familietavle |
Familie |
Niels Eriksen Banner, f. ca. 1380, Sorø, Danmark Vinstrup,Tystrup d. eft. 1444, Vinstrup, , (Alder > 65 år) |
Ægteskab |
før 1422 |
Børn |
+ | 1. Ide Nielsdatter Banner, f. ca. 1427, Vinstrup, , d. eft. 1452, Tange, Viborg, Danmark (Alder > 26 år) |
+ | 2. Karen Nielsdatter Banner, f. ca. 1440, Vinstrup, , d. eft. 1485, Odden, Hjørring, Danmark (Alder > 46 år) |
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Familie-ID |
F26097 |
Gruppeskema | Familietavle |
Sidst ændret |
25 jan. 2015 |
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